What "is" BF research?

[#59]

1. It isn't "hunting" them as (IMHO) that's a fool's errand on several counts with the first being it's a major bad karma move and just not right especially when the world finally is presented with evidence (and no, not a body freshly shot by some road-hunting mercenary yahoo) as to what type of beings they actually are likely to be.

2. It isn't hosting a "festival" to pimp your website.

3. It isn't hosting a BBQ to try and patch up a group ripped apart by internal discord.

IMHO, BF "research" is simply doing things a real human being would attempt in order to gain a better understanding of these beings.  That incorporates the premise that as far as woodcraft goes, they are light years ahead of us and to try and fool/corner/ambush one is indeed a tall order.  The people that have had apparent success in habituating them have done so because a level of comfort and trust has been established.  It is my opinion these beings can "read" the heart/mindset (vibes/aura, whatever) of a person and determine whether approachability is an option.

I also understand that just like homo sapiens there are good ones and bad 'uns so common sense should be the perpetual order of the day.  There also are some starry-eyed researchers that have Disneyfied these beings to the point of domesticity and IMHO that is just as bad as the killer mentality.  However, I've always maintained the most dangerous critter in the woods ARE the homo sapiens and that's primarily why I carry a sidearm when afield.

IF you want to "see" BF...let them see you for what you really are and they will make the decision...meanwhile, while you are in the woods always remember they see you.

[Teufelwald]

I do not care what others do....I do my thing...they do theirs! 

[Ruthie]

The people that have had apparent success in habituating them have done so because a level of comfort and trust has been established.  It is my opinion these beings can "read" the heart/mindset (vibes/aura, whatever) of a person and determine whether approachability is an option.

There also are some starry-eyed researchers that have Disneyfied these beings to the point of domesticity and IMHO that is just as bad as the killer mentality.

I think I understand what you mean by the above but could you explain a little more.  Are you saying that someone has tamed a BF? Or they think they have? I would like to make sure I understand what you are saying. 

[Teufelwald]

The people that have had apparent success in habituating them

Tel.....you been talking with Chandra again.....sounds like something she would say?

[#59]

The people that have had apparent success in habituating them have done so because a level of comfort and trust has been established.  It is my opinion these beings can "read" the heart/mindset (vibes/aura, whatever) of a person and determine whether approachability is an option.

There also are some starry-eyed researchers that have Disneyfied these beings to the point of domesticity and IMHO that is just as bad as the killer mentality.

I think I understand what you mean by the above but could you explain a little more.  Are you saying that someone has tamed a BF? Or they think they have? I would like to make sure I understand what you are saying. 

No, not "tamed" a BF rather they've visualized them as a benevolent teddy bear type being w/o any capacity for malovelence.

R,

Haven't spoken w/Chandra in over a year...last conversation was about her (fictional) Sasquatch book she was working on.

[Ruthie]

Oh okay. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Teufelwald]

The people that have had apparent success in habituating them have done so because a level of comfort and trust has been established.  It is my opinion these beings can "read" the heart/mindset (vibes/aura, whatever) of a person and determine whether approachability is an option.

There also are some starry-eyed researchers that have Disneyfied these beings to the point of domesticity and IMHO that is just as bad as the killer mentality.

I think I understand what you mean by the above but could you explain a little more.  Are you saying that someone has tamed a BF? Or they think they have? I would like to make sure I understand what you are saying. 

No, not "tamed" a BF rather they've visualized them as a benevolent teddy bear type being w/o any capacity for malovelence.

R,

Haven't spoken w/Chandra in over a year...last conversation was about her (fictional) Sasquatch book she was working on.

Yeah....remember mobigfoot bet everyone on KBR that she would habituate a Bigfoot by a certain date!

She also said she wished DG would be eaten by a Bigfoot....that was some funny stuff...lmao 

[#59]

Also...is BF "research" having your camp surrounded like Fort Apache by as many as eight BF "probing the perimeter, etc." yet finding no forensic evidence thereof when the sun comes up the next day ?  

..."With our protocols in place, everyone headed out to the locations. After a quick radio check, we settled in. Soon, the locator calls were heard, along with several wood knocks in the field. The Bigfoot had apparently decided to close in on the camp area. In the light of the lanterns at camp, several were seen moving back and forth at the outer edges of the light.

Rocks also began landing near the three of us in camp, while the creatures moved in very close, in the wood line around DO's trailer, the movement was quite loud from branches and sticks being broken.

To our surpise, one even crawled up within 25 feet to our front, as we seen the bushes part as it moved through them. By this time, locator calls were sounding off all around us, rocks were falling everywhere (in the middle of the field) and movement was everywhere.

This continued for about 45 minutes, as the Bigfoot continued to probe the perimeter of the camp. I believe they were a little confused at the small number of people in the camp, and did not know where the rest were. By doing their probing, they seemed to be looking for a reaction that would show them where everyone was.

DO then radioed and said him and No Mercy were returning to camp, and within minutes, the other observation teams had their fill of being out there. DO dropped off No Mercy and headed to get Grtpmpkn, who seemed from the camp vantage point to be in the midst of some activity himself. Bushman and Deathjest walked in with their gear and we set around the fire and talked about the probing of camp that occurred. From the number of vocalizations, sightings outside the lighted areas and the noise behind us, up to 8 Bigfoot had been probing the camp, possibly more.

Vocalizations continued to be heard sporadically as they moved off. Possibly because our numbers swelled considerably and more movement around the camp area spooked them."...

I hafta call BS on this entire event...they were there allegedly prepared to collect forensic evidence, et. al. and yet no mention is made of any such being found and documented from those incidents....gimme a break.

It's items such as these type of "reports" that give rise to the public's general perception that people involved in Sasquatchery are delusional.  

[#59]

BTW, the above post should in no way be construed as an attack...IMHO, any prudent person (reading the "report" for it's face value) would arrive at the same conclusion. 

[#59]

There are people (on other websites) openly attacking Dr. Jeff Meldrum by being critical of his (alleged) dearth of field research.

Excuse me, but didn't he go to Canada, recover DNA and have it analyzed with the results being somewhat enlightening?

With all the "activity" they allege but are absent any real evidence....hmmmm.

Perhaps, had those folks been at the conference in Jefferson, Texas last November and heard what he had to say they might not be so quick to sit in judgement.

But then again some of those people probably should take a long look at the veracity of their own "research".

[Bill]

Excuse me, but didn't he go to Canada, recover DNA and have it analyzed with the results being somewhat enlightening?

So enlighten us what as the result of the DNA? I recall a board with nails at a cabin is this the same DNA? I thought that was a bear.

[#59]

Excuse me, but didn't he go to Canada, recover DNA and have it analyzed with the results being somewhat enlightening?

So enlighten us what as the result of the DNA? I recall a board with nails at a cabin is this the same DNA? I thought that was a bear.

If memory serves me, the tests indicated a result of one pair-bond adjacent to homo sapiens.

[Pywacket]

Excuse me, but didn't he go to Canada, recover DNA and have it analyzed with the results being somewhat enlightening?

Perhaps, had those folks been at the conference in Jefferson, Texas last November and heard what he had to say they might not be so quick to sit in judgement.

John, you were at the conference, but you must not have been listening to Meldrum when he said that they couldn't get any conclusive DNA from the screw board samples, because of the degradation of time and elements, since the screw board had been sitting out in the weather for almost 2 years.   That was the first thing he said before he started his talk about the Yeti footprints.

[#59]

Excuse me, but didn't he go to Canada, recover DNA and have it analyzed with the results being somewhat enlightening?

Perhaps, had those folks been at the conference in Jefferson, Texas last November and heard what he had to say they might not be so quick to sit in judgement.

John, you were at the conference, but you must not have been listening to Meldrum when he said that they couldn't get any conclusive DNA from the screw board samples, because of the degradation of time and elements, since the screw board had been sitting out in the weather for almost 2 years.   That was the first thing he said before he started his talk about the Yeti footprints.

I don't remember you sitting in on the private meeting four of us had with him.  If so, you might have a different take on things.

[Pywacket]

So, your are saying that Meldrum got up and lied to the over 400 people in attendance to his presentation?