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« on: May 22, 2011, 01:06:52 PM »

After reading this no wonder the property owners (Mr. & Mrs. BM) wanted further explanations:



GAVREAU
The central research theme of Dr. Vladimir Gavreau was the development of remote controlled automatons and robotic devices. To this end he assembled a group of scientists in 1957. The group, including Marcel Miane, Henri Saul, and Raymond Comdat, successfully developed a great variety of robotic devices for industrial and military purposes. In the course of developing mobile robots for use in battlefields and industrial fields, Dr. Gavreau and his staff made a strange and astounding observation which, not only interrupted their work, but became their major research theme.

Housed in a large concrete building, the entire group periodically experienced a disconcerting nausea which flooded the research facility. Day after day, for weeks at a time, the symptoms plagued the researchers. Called to inspect the situation, industrial examiners also fell victim to the malady. It was thought that the condition was caused by pathogens, a “building sickness”. No such agencies were ever biologically detected. Yet the condition prevailed. Research schedules now seriously interrupted, a complete examination of the building was called.

The researchers noticed that the mysterious nauseations ceased when certain laboratory windows were blocked. It was then assumed that “chemical gas emissions” of some kind were responsible for the malady, and so a thorough search of the building was undertaken. While no noxious fumes could be detected by any technical means, the source was finally traced by building engineers to an improperly installed motor-driven ventilator. The engineers at first thought that this motor might be emitting noxious fumes, possibly evaporated oils and lubricants. But no evaporated products were ever detected. It was found that the loosely poised low speed motor, poised in its cavernous duct of several stories, was developing “nauseating vibrations”.

The mystery magnified for Dr. Gavreau and his team, when they tried to measure the sound intensity and pitch. Failing to register any acoustic readings at all, the team doubted the assessment of the building engineers. Nevertheless, closing the windows blocked the sense of nausea. In a step of brilliant scientific reasoning, Gavreau and his colleagues realized that the sound with which they were dealing was so low in pitch that it could not register on any available microphonic detector. The data was costly to the crew.

They could not pursue the “search” for long time periods. During the very course of tracking the sound down, an accidental direct exposure rendered them all extremely ill for hours. When finally measured, it was found that a low intensity pitch of a fundamental 7 cycles per second was being produced. Furthermore, this infrasonic pitch was not one of great intensity either. It became obvious that the slow vibrating motor was activating an infrasonic resonant mode in the large concrete duct. Operating as the vibrating “tongue” of an immense “organ pipe”, the rattling motor produced nauseating infrasound. Coupled with the rest of the concrete building, a cavernous industrial enclosure, the vibrating air column formed a bizarre infrasonic “amplifier”.

Knowledge of this infrasonic configuration also explained why shutting the windows was mildly effective in “blocking the malady”. The windows altered the total resonant profile of the building, shifting the infrasonic pitch and intensity. Since this time, others have noted the personally damaging effects of such infrasonic generation in office buildings and industrial facilities. The nauseating effects of exposure to a low intensity natural or manmade infrasonic source is now well appreciated.

It has become a routine architectural procedure to seek out and alter any possible such resonant cavities. The sources often appear in older buildings, the result of construction rendered faulty by previous lack of this knowledge. All such “improper” architectural formats are modified by the additions of sound-blocking materials
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* http://journal.borderlands.com/1996/the-sonic-weapon-of-vladimir-gavreau/

Is this so-called, Ed Smith a mad scientist leftover from the Cold War?
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 01:12:41 PM »

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Dr. Gavreau and his research team now carefully investigated the effects of their “infrasonic organ” at various intensity levels and pitch. Changing the spring tension on shock mounts which held the fan motor, it was possible to change the pitch. Various infrasonic resonances were established throughout the large research building. Shutting the windows blocked most of the symptoms. When the window was again opened, however weak as the source was made, the team felt the nauseating effects once again.

In the business of military research, Dr. Gavreau believed he had discovered a new and previously “unknown weapon” in these infrasounds. Aware of the natural explosives by which infrasonics are generated, Dr. Gavreau began to speculate on the application of infrasonics as a defense initiative. The haphazard explosive effects of natural infrasound in thunderclaps were quite effective in demonstrating what an artificial “thunder-maker” could do. But, how could a thunderclap be artificially generated in a compact system? These thoughts stimulated theoretical discussions on the possibility of producing coherent infrasound: an infrasonic “laser”.

The first devices Dr. Gavreau implemented were designed to imitate the “accident” which first made his research group aware of infrasonics. They designed real organ pipes of exceedingly great width and length. The first of these was six feet in diameter and seventy five feet long. These designs were tested outdoors, securely propped against protective sound-absorbent walls. The investigators stood at a great distance. Two forms of these infrasonic organ pipes were built. The first utilized a drive piston which pulsed the pipe output. The second utilized compressed air in a more conventional manner.

The main resonant frequency of these pipes occurred in the “range of death”, found to lie between three and seven cycles per second. These sounds could not be humanly heard, a distinct advantage for a defense system. The effects were felt however. The symptoms come on rapidly and unexpectedly, though the pipes were operating for a few seconds. Their pressure waves impacted against the entire body in a terrible and inescapable grip. The grip was a pressure which came in on one from all sides simultaneously, an envelope of death.

Next came the pain, dull infrasonic pressure against the eyes and ears. Then came a frightening manifestation on the material supports of the device itself. With sustained operation of the pipe, a sudden rumble rocked the area, nearly destroying the test building. Every pillar and joint of the massive structure bolted and moved. One of the technicians managed to ignore the pain enough to shut down the power supply.

These experiments with infrasonics were as dangerous as those early investigations of nuclear energy. Dr. Gavreau and his associates were dangerously ill for nearly a day after these preliminary tests. These maladies were sustained for hours after the device was turned off. Infrasonic assaults on the body are the more lethal because they come with dreadful silence. The eyesight of Dr. Gavreau and his fellow workers were affected for days. More dangerously were their internal organs affected: the heart, lungs, stomach, intestinal cavity were filled with continual painful spasms for an equal time period.

Musculature convulses, torques, and tears were the symptoms of infrasonic exposure. All the resonant body cavities absorbed the self-destructive acoustic energy, and would have been torn apart had the power not been extinguished at that precise moment. The effectiveness of infrasound as a defense weapon of frightening power having been demonstrated “to satisfaction”, more questions were asked. After this dreadful accident, approaching the equipment once again was almost a fearful exercise. How powerful could the output of an infrasonic device be raised before even the operating engineers were affected?

With greatest caution and respect for the power with which they worked, Dr. Gavreau began recalculating all of his design parameters. He had grossly misjudged the power released by the pipes. He had, in fact, greatly lowered those calculated outputs for diagnostic purposes. Never had he imagined that these figures were actually far too great in the world of infrasound!

Empirical data being the only way to determine how infrasonic energy correlated with both biological and material effect, the tests were again attempted with a miniature power supply. First, the dimensions of these devices had to be greatly reduced. Their extreme length was objectionable. In order to provide absolutely safe control of the deadly blasts, several emergency cutoff switches were provided. These responded to the radiated infrasonic pressure wave. the intensity could be absolutely limited by use of automated barometric switches.

In an attempt to achieve more compact and controllable infrasound generators, Dr. Gavreau designed and tested special horns and “whistles” of various volumes. These were each remarkably simple flat circular resonant cavities, having a side output duct. They were simply the large analogues of foghorns and police whistles. These flat forms were volumetrically reduced in successive design stages because it was found that their output was far too great. The infrasonic foghorns could produce a frightening two kilowatts of infrasonic energy, at a pitch of one hundred fifty cycles per second.

The flat “police whistles” were more easily designed to required specifications. Their overall characteristics were quite simple to determine, a mathematical formula being devised for the purpose. The whistle’s resonant pitch was found by dividing its diameter into a numerical constant of 51. Increasing the depth of the whistle effectively increased its amplitude. A whistle 1.3 meters in diameter produced an infrasonic pitch of 37 cycles per second. This form violently shook the walls of the entire laboratory complex, though its intensity was less than 2 watts infrasonic power.

DANGER
Not much amplitude is required for infrasound to produce physiological malady. Several researchers accidentally did themselves great harm when, by deliberate intent or accident, they succeeded in generating infrasonic vibrations.
Tesla used vibrating platforms as an aid to vitality. He delighted in “toning the body” with vibrational platforms of his own design. Mounted on heavy rubber pads, these platforms were vibrated by simple motorized “eccentric” wheels.

Their mild use, for a minute, could be pleasantly stimulating. The effects invigorating the whole body for hours thereafter. Excessive use would produce grave illness however, excessive aggravations of the heart being the most dangerous aspect of the stimulation. The entire body “rang” for hours with an elevated heart rate and greatly stimulated blood pressure.

The effects could be deadly.


In one historic instance, Samuel Clemens, Tesla’s close friend, refused to descend from the vibrating platform. Tesla was sorry he had allowed him to mount it. After repeated warnings, Tesla’s concern was drowned out by both the vibrating machine and Clemens’ jubilant exaltations and praises. Several more seconds and Clemens nearly soiled his white suit, the effects of infrasound being “duly recorded”.

Tesla often went to great lengths in describing the effects of infrasounds to newspaper reporters who, behind his back, scoffed at the notion that a “little sound” could effect such devastations. Yet, it was precisely with such a “little sound” that Tesla nearly brought down his laboratory on Houston Street. His compact infrasonic impulsers were terribly efficient. Tesla later designed and tested infrasonic impulse weapons capable of wrecking buildings and whole cities on command.

Walt Disney and his artists were once made seriously ill when a sound effect, intended for a short cartoon scene, was slowed down several times on a tape machine and amplified through a theater sound system. The original sound source was a soldering iron, whose buzzing 60 cycle tone was lowered five times to 12 cycles. This tone produced a lingering nausea in the crew which lasted for days.

Physiology seems to remain paralyzed by infrasound. Infrasound stimulates middle ear disruptions, ruining organismic equilibrium. The effect is like severe and prolonged seasickness. Infrasound immobilizes its victims. Restoration to normal vitality requires several hours, or even days. Exposure to mild infrasound intensities produces illness, but increased intensities result in death. Alarming responses to infrasound have been accurately recorded by military medical experts.

Tolerances from 40 to 100 cycles per second have been recorded by military examiners. The results are sobering ones. As infrasonic pitches decrease, the deadly symptoms increase. Altered cardiac rhythms, with pulse rates rising to 40 percent of their rest values, are the precursors to other pre-lethal states. Mild nausea, giddiness, skin flushing, and body tingling occur at 100 cycles per second. Vertigo, anxiety, extreme fatigue, throat pressure, and respiratory dysfunction follow. Coughing, severe sternal pressure, choking, excessive salivation, extreme swallowing pains, inability to breathe, headache, and abdominal pain occur between 60 and 73 cycles per second. Post exposure fatigue is marked. Certain subjects continued to cough for half an hour, while many continued the skin-flush manifestation for up to four hours.

Significant visual acuity decrements are noted when humans are exposed to infrasounds between 43 and 73 cycles per second. Intelligibility scores for persons exposed, fall to a low of 77 percent their normal scores. Spatial orientation becomes completely distorted. Muscular coordination and equilibrium falter considerably. Depressed manual dexterity and slurred speech have been noted before individuals blackout. Just before this point, a significant loss in intelligibility is noted.

The findings of Dr. Gavreau in the infrasonic range between 1 and 10 cycles per second are truly shocking. Lethal infrasonic pitch lies in the 7 cycle range. Small amplitude increases affect human behavior in this pitch range. Intellectual activity is first inhibited, blocked, and then destroyed. As the amplitude is increased, several disconcerting responses had been noted. These responses begin as complete neurological interference. The action of the medulla is physiologically blocked, its autonomic functions cease.


* http://journal.borderlands.com/1996/the-sonic-weapon-of-vladimir-gavreau/
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 01:15:30 PM »

..."The findings of Dr. Gavreau in the infrasonic range between 1 and 10 cycles per second are truly shocking. Lethal infrasonic pitch lies in the 7 cycle range. Small amplitude increases affect human behavior in this pitch range. Intellectual activity is first inhibited, blocked, and then destroyed. As the amplitude is increased, several disconcerting responses had been noted. These responses begin as complete neurological interference. The action of the medulla is physiologically blocked, its autonomic functions cease."...

WOW!
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 01:25:08 PM »

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Your welcome, I do what I can.
Ed does not have a problem with someone calling him 'all hat and no cattle'. Remarks that would make some people respond with a knee jerk answer does not motivate Ed to reveal more than his group feels is needed. Perhaps those who use those tactics should rethink their approach. Maybe the reason those remarks don't affect him or the Orig-6 is because they know what they have, they live it, research it, dissect it, and know it's value. They proceed forward the way they have determined...that's all. So they have everything to lose and risk everything by divulging information too soon, and disrupting the course as it has been mapped out.
Thankfully I have been a witness to some of what he claims...but not a lot. Even if I had not been a witness to some of these things, I would still believe...because I want it to be true and I want everyone to see and share in the information, it is a good thing. Even Bulletmaker had the opportunity to allow some experiments that involved researchers on his property, New Double gates were going to be installed in his access field, The hidden bean field was going to be cut, and gravel was going to be brought in to get trailers back into the field and parked. Medical people were going to monitor people during the experiment, as well as medical monitoring equipment ( ekg.s) etc. None of which was easy to secure. It was set up to be a double blind experiment involving infra sound and possible affects on people physically. The planning and logistics were huge as well as cost. Bullet loved the idea, but then he thought he could make out better by just demanding money from Ed, This threw us all for a loop, and rightly so. This showed Bullet for what he was and the plug was pulled and relations severed. I realize now that the demand for money was probably a way to abort the experiment rather so as not to expose the truth about his property. When he realized equipment that was going to be brought in would support his tales or refute them... and Bullet realized he had to stage an event to stop it from happening. I mean he had cd's to sell and radio shows to tell his tales on. So be very critical of the two people you listen to to give you the straight truthfull answers. What you have gotten so far is woefully short of truth.
But I don't want to stray too far from The subject of Ed Smith.

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* source:  http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/topic/5401-ed-smith-and-the-oklahoma-documentary/page__pid__63694__st__30#entry63694

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2011, 01:26:13 PM »

..."It was set up to be a double blind experiment involving infra sound and possible affects on people physically"...
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2011, 01:43:23 PM »

What this thread is designed to illustrate is simply an apparent "Dr. Frankenstein" type event w/o regard for the possible consequences thereof.

As BM has previously stated, who would a reasonable person expect to be the focus of litigation, possible criminal charges, etc. had something gone awry?
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2011, 11:24:19 PM »

Spent the afternoon with M&M BM and one other hunter shooting big bore weaponry and having a nice visit.

I visited with them extensively about the aborted Ed Smith "experiment" and came away with some additional information/observations:

First, it was ~2 weeks before the event when M&M BM first learned some of the details which included the infrasound experiments on human subjects that was to occur on their property.  At that point, they said "hold the bus" as for starters they had never met this Ed Smith.  Come to think of it, to the best of my knowledge & belief only DW & DO have ever claimed FTF interaction w/Smith.  

It was when Harrington showed up unannounced at their place and said "I've set it all up", etc. that M&M BM said basically, "no way Jose".  Harrington then proceeded to throw a temper tamtrum in their living room that moved BM to try and remember where his handgun was located.  Harrington left in a royal huff and it was only hours later when BM was excommunicated from the MABRC and the burning in effigy (of him) began in earnest.

BTW, BM did extend invitations to people who had already made long-distance arrangements (i.e., Sharon Lee, et. al.) that they were welcome at his & Mrs. BM's place, sans any infrasound hijinks.

The upshot of this is simply why wouldn't a reasonable person ask themselves about the apparent reckless (possibly bordering upon criminal neglience) behavior of this Ed Smith (and company).  

Is this type of mindset appropriate for a serious, professional researcher in this field?

Or, is this the mindset of an arrogant, egomaniacal person(s) with an addiction for fame that trounces any manifestation of simple human decency?

Further, any person(s) that choose to associate with such a party...should they not be held in the same regard?

Food for thought...


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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 12:15:15 PM »

One of the primary observations of this entire episode is how revealing the insanity so endemic within Sasquatchery is thus firmly rooted.

What kind of mindset would "cook up" or otherwise hatch such a reckless scheme?

I seriously doubt that any professional persons of any discipline would even remotely consider any level of association with such a crackpot and potentially dangerous enterprise.

And to top it all off, the only persons possessing common sense enough to put the brakes on such a potential catastrophe are now being vilified by the very principals involved in promoting such a hare brained FUBAR.

Mr & Mrs. BM are to be commended...not condemned.

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 01:01:42 PM »

#59--Thank you so much for stating our position so eloquently on this topic.  BM nor I either one have ever had any second thoughts on our decision not to allow the infrasound experiments to take place here.  Yes we regretted the fact that there were some who had purchased airline tickets.  We also regretted that they were possibly out financially.  We did invite them to go ahead and come and we would have a "hunt" here if they wished (trying to make the best of a bad situation).  We never received a reply from any of them.  We never dreamed that such a mountain would be made out of the proverbial "mole hill".   

I never cease to be amazed at the amount of venom that is spewed forth and the amount of time that has been wasted on this topic by DO & DW.  Especially when the time could have been used to produce something constructive in the world of BF rather than throwing a temper tantrum on the web.  My advice to them would be to get over it and go on.  Do something with your life.
       
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2011, 10:02:26 AM »

You are truly welcome, Mrs. BM as this thread is not an attack upon anyone except for those that consider illumination of the truth as some form of a personal style of attack.  For those of this mindset, it is what it is as the truth has always been and will continue to be the ultimate defense against those that would do otherwise.

It cannot be stated often enough...there are people in this "field" with apparent mindset(s) so abberrant as to cause reasonable people to recoil from such and ask what in the world is wrong with these people?

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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2011, 01:55:17 PM »

In summary, the more I have delved into this subject the more alarming the information which has been generated thus far.  It is still absolutely astounding that certain individuals would have attempted to perpetrate such a dangerous and reckless stunt upon others.  Also, what this further indicates is that while DO & DW hold themselves out to be serious researchers in this endeavour, they apparently lack the capacity to conduct proper due diligence anytime someone they perceive as the new "messiah" comes waltzing onto the scene.

In a recent conversation, BM was laughing about DO's enthuiasm for Smith and in one instance he was proclaiming "I saw a $80,000 check he (Smith) had written, lying in his briefcase".  As BM so aptly stated, it's one thing to write a $80K check but often quite another to be able to cash it.  And, as a friend in south Louisiana once said, "it doesn't always take water to catch a mullet".

DO & DW are registered members here and therefore welcome to come on board and discuss/refute anything posted, to-date.  I would encourage them to do so as continued silence might be sending out the wrong message especially should my/our comments be in error.  I can promise them a fair and balanced format and even their buddy/member, todtkaufman is welcome.
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2011, 10:01:13 AM »

I wonder if the Horizion Project people are being the recipients of any infrasound "treatments" ?
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2011, 01:50:59 PM »

Reckon Ed Smith got his equipment from the gentleman from Arkansas?
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