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« on: May 29, 2011, 12:12:22 PM »

Has just been rendered void?

This, according to a thread started on another site and although the OP author has a long history of "puffing the goods" there may be some relevancy to his postulations.

Basically, he opines the implementation of the federal Lacey Act1 against person(s) successfully killing a Sasquatch type entity and while this may be somewhat of a stretch (as this may be a ways down the food chain of legal problems that the killer & associates may encounter) it is within the realm of possibility even if you ignore his cryptic remark at the end of the OP.

So, consider that you have killed one and made it out of the woods w/o having your face ripped off your head, then at the truck you meet a variety of LE with handcuffs for you and an unmarked refrigerated duce & a quarter for the body.  Might want to have Biscardi/Kull's number(s) on speed dial for the bail money?

This could be a plausible explanation as to why certain people in Louisiana were so desperate to get potential DNA samples back into their possession?

1 http://www.animallaw.info/articles/ovuslaceyact.htm
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2011, 01:32:20 PM »

Am I correct in thinking that this federal statute does not specifically list Bigfeet as an illegal kill--does not mention Bigfoot?  But am I also correct in thinking that any wildlife NOT specifically named as game animals by statute or agency regulation is protected?  Could a Bigfoot not be considered one of these non-game animals and, therefore, an illegal kill?

In Oklahoma, it is illegal to harrass wildlife.  A friend of mine--he lives in southeastern Oklahoma--told me recently about a gathering of bears in a polk salad patch of several acres.  If I recall correctly, over 20 cars had been stopped so the occupants could observe the large number of black bears eating the berries.  The game rangers/conservation officers descended on the scene, told all the drivers to leave,and warned them that, if they were caught a second time, they would be cited for harrassing wildlife.  (Is that salad plant "polk" or "poke."  I grew up hearing my Granny say it as "poke," the same way she spoke of a bag as a "poke," but I vaguely remember being corrected on that by someone.)

Seems to me that our conservation officers could do the same to a bunch of guys out on an organized Bigfoot hunt.  I can imagine the court dialogue:

Judge:  "You say that they were harrassing Bigfeet?"
Officer:  "Yes, sir."
Judge:  "Is there any such animal?"
Officer:  "No, sir."
Judge:  "How, then, could they be harrassing it."
Officer:  "Well, if there were such an animal...."
Judge:  "Isn't that an assumption?"
Officer:  Yes, but they clearly had the intent to harrass Bigfeet."
Judge:  "Isn't that a little bit of a reach?"
Officer:  "Well, they were harrassing its neighbors--harrassing "possums and "coons in the area."
Judge:  "But your complaint specified that Bigfeet were being harrassed.
Silence.
Judge:  "Do you have a Bigfoot willing to testify to this harrassment?"

I repeat my oft made assertion that, if I should ever encounter a Bigfoot, the only way that I would shoot it would be to protect either myself or another from physical harm.  I don't know what I would do about my psychological damage and the laundry bill on my camo underwear.

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2011, 11:15:55 PM »

Am I correct in thinking that this federal statute does not specifically list Bigfeet as an illegal kill--does not mention Bigfoot?  But am I also correct in thinking that any wildlife NOT specifically named as game animals by statute or agency regulation is protected?  Could a Bigfoot not be considered one of these non-game animals and, therefore, an illegal kill?

In Oklahoma, it is illegal to harrass wildlife.  A friend of mine--he lives in southeastern Oklahoma--told me recently about a gathering of bears in a polk salad patch of several acres.  If I recall correctly, over 20 cars had been stopped so the occupants could observe the large number of black bears eating the berries.  The game rangers/conservation officers descended on the scene, told all the drivers to leave,and warned them that, if they were caught a second time, they would be cited for harrassing wildlife.  (Is that salad plant "polk" or "poke."  I grew up hearing my Granny say it as "poke," the same way she spoke of a bag as a "poke," but I vaguely remember being corrected on that by someone.)

Seems to me that our conservation officers could do the same to a bunch of guys out on an organized Bigfoot hunt.  I can imagine the court dialogue:

Judge:  "You say that they were harrassing Bigfeet?"
Officer:  "Yes, sir."
Judge:  "Is there any such animal?"
Officer:  "No, sir."
Judge:  "How, then, could they be harrassing it."
Officer:  "Well, if there were such an animal...."
Judge:  "Isn't that an assumption?"
Officer:  Yes, but they clearly had the intent to harrass Bigfeet."
Judge:  "Isn't that a little bit of a reach?"
Officer:  "Well, they were harrassing its neighbors--harrassing "possums and "coons in the area."
Judge:  "But your complaint specified that Bigfeet were being harrassed.
Silence.
Judge:  "Do you have a Bigfoot willing to testify to this harrassment?"

I repeat my oft made assertion that, if I should ever encounter a Bigfoot, the only way that I would shoot it would be to protect either myself or another from physical harm.  I don't know what I would do about my psychological damage and the laundry bill on my camo underwear.



..."the laundry bill on my camo underwear."


Tide w/Oxy Clean stain remover works wonders...been there, done that!    Wink
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2011, 12:29:37 PM »

Recently spoke with a family member who's been in LE for ~26 years and apparently such a predicament may well be the case depending upon how the DNA analysis turns out.

Heck, in Australia they can't even shoot the aboriginies anymore.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2011, 11:12:24 AM »

Three weeks ago, I took a lesson plan on the Ten Commandments to my Sunday-night Bible study.  (I am a Department of Corrections volunteer and teach inmates a couple of nights a week:  Thursday evening it is personal finance.  Sunday evening it is Bible study.)  We're still on that same plan. Sunday evening, we spent the entire class on "Thou shalt not kill!" and didn't get through with it.  We'll return to it this coming Sunday. 

Does that commandment cover a Bigfoot?  I guess it depends on how humanoid it is.

Incidentally, my DOC badge got me into a gun show without buying a ticket a week or so ago.  They were admitting law enforcement without charge.  Might be a good reason to become a DOC volunteer--if you have the qualifications.  Being a DOC volunteer is a lot like hunting 'coons with hounds:  I was told years ago that the hunter needs to be smarter than the dogs.  Same with dealing with inmates. 
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