Yeti Expedition

[Bill]

Did anyone else watch the Destination Truth episode tonight on the search for Yeti in the Himalayas? They were within sight of Everest and found two foot prints one a full foot and the other a partial of the heel of other foot.

They made casts and took lots of photos. The casts were taken to Dr. Jeff Meldrum who scanned them both in and looked at the 3D rendering on computer. He was convinced the partial of the heel fit well enough when reversed and superimposed on the full print that he was convinced it was confirmation of a left and right print of same creature.

He further compared them to many other aminals like bears, apes, etc and concluded that it wasn't a tree dweller based on foot configuration and wasn't a bear. The toes were splayed widely in the print and he says he'd never seen that in a bear print and configuration just wasn't right for a bear either.

His evaluation was that the pair of casts were a very significant find and to him some of the best evidence ever found of the possible existence of the Yeti and that further expeditions should be under taken for additional research.

The one thing most convincing to me was the true remoteness of this location, the difficulty of carrying the equipment you'd need to properly fake such tracks and the fact hardly anyone would ever go to such remote areas other than to look for Yeti or to climb Mount Everest.

They also visited a monastry with what is claimed to be the skull cap of a Yeti and allowed it to be filmed but not touched and refused the request for a hair from it to evaluate what it really was. The monk in charge said he knew what it was and just really didn't care if anyone else believed it or not.

There have been hundreds of reported Yeti sightings in the valley where they were doing this research.

It was a very interesting show.

[DaveShooter]

Did anyone else watch the Destination Truth episode tonight on the search for Yeti in the Himalayas? They were within sight of Everest and found two foot prints one a full foot and the other a partial of the heel of other foot.

They made casts and took lots of photos. The casts were taken to Dr. Jeff Meldrum who scanned them both in and looked at the 3D rendering on computer. He was convinced the partial of the heel fit well enough when reversed and superimposed on the full print that he was convinced it was confirmation of a left and right print of same creature.

He further compared them to many other aminals like bears, apes, etc and concluded that it wasn't a tree dweller based on foot configuration and wasn't a bear. The toes were splayed widely in the print and he says he'd never seen that in a bear print and configuration just wasn't right for a bear either.

His evaluation was that the pair of casts were a very significant find and to him some of the best evidence ever found of the possible existence of the Yeti and that further expeditions should be under taken for additional research.

The one thing most convincing to me was the true remoteness of this location, the difficulty of carrying the equipment you'd need to properly fake such tracks and the fact hardly anyone would ever go to such remote areas other than to look for Yeti or to climb Mount Everest.

They also visited a monastry with what is claimed to be the skull cap of a Yeti and allowed it to be filmed but not touched and refused the request for a hair from it to evaluate what it really was. The monk in charge said he knew what it was and just really didn't care if anyone else believed it or not.

There have been hundreds of reported Yeti sightings in the valley where they were doing this research.

It was a very interesting show.

SOONER OR LATER PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE EXCEPT THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES HUMANS ON THIS EARTH, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE UFO SIGHTINGS THAT ARE TAKEN PLACE. i HAVE ALWAYS BELEAVED IN BIG FOOT AND UFO'S. i DID SEE THE SHOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
DAVE SHOOTER

[ole bub]

Bill....

I watched the show myself...much more convincing prints, track ways, scat, thermal images and videos have been collected by members of this forum in the lower 48, some of which have been under rigorous examination by Dr. Jeff and other eminent scientists in this field for some time.  It was nice to see, Dr. Meldrum demonstrating some new tools in his lab.

No reason to travel halfway around the world to re-invent a wheel, Tom Slick and Peter Byrne "patented"....fifty years ago....JMHO  Hopefully they will leave the drama queen in base camp in future episodes.   The "Yeti" scalp and hair samples were tested and were determined to be from a Yak, and not a primate, several years ago by leading English biologists. 

Unfortunately, psuedoscience in "reality"  TV, has become fashionable, whether it's sensational, erroneous or just plain wrong...let's not forget this is a Sci-Fi channel series...albeit entertaining is a cable channel with dubious objectivity...JMHO

If you are truly interested in this phenomena...listen to Melissa Hovey and Kathy Strain interview with Robert W. Morgan, on the "Let's Talk Bigfoot" series two weeks ago, on Talkshoe internet radio.  There is a wealth of useful information in that interview, especially when compared to the editorial discussion John, Pat and myself gave last Sunday evening...JMHO

live and let live...

ole bub and the dawgs

[Bill]

I watched the show myself...much more convincing prints, track ways, scat, thermal images and videos have been collected by members of this forum in the lower 48, some of which have been under rigorous examination by Dr. Jeff and other eminent scientists in this field for some time.  It was nice to see, Dr. Meldrum demonstrating some new tools in his lab.

Agree on the new tools. Things of the sort should go a long way in helping figure out this thing. Where are the things you mention that have been collected by members of this forum posted? Are they here or somewhere else or at this time still unposted? I would be interested in seeing and hearing of them.

I have no real interest in the specifics of where/when/how you got them and for sure have no intentions of trying to invade and mess with your research areas but would like to hear of such findings and see photos and such.

No reason to travel halfway around the world to re-invent a wheel, Tom Slick and Peter Byrne "patented"....fifty years ago....JMHO  Hopefully they will leave the drama queen in base camp in future episodes.   The "Yeti" scalp and hair samples were tested and were determined to be from a Yak, and not a primate, several years ago by leading English biologists. 

I thought I had seen another show long ago that might have been that same scalp but wasn't sure it was the same one.

Unfortunately, psuedoscience in "reality"  TV, has become fashionable, whether it's sensational, erroneous or just plain wrong...let's not forget this is a Sci-Fi channel series...albeit entertaining is a cable channel with dubious objectivity...JMHO

If you are truly interested in this phenomena...listen to Melissa Hovey and Kathy Strain interview with Robert W. Morgan, on the "Let's Talk Bigfoot" series two weeks ago, on Talkshoe internet radio.  There is a wealth of useful information in that interview, especially when compared to the editorial discussion John, Pat and myself gave last Sunday evening...JMHO

I'm kinda ignorant of such matters. You'll have to help me out by giving me a URL or something to find my way to it. I'd like to see/hear but have no clue how to go about finding it myself. Do you have a URL for it?

Who is this Melissa? I recall her from your radio show I listened to but am not really familiar with who she is. Is she a member here as well?

As you might guess I'm not all that up to speed on such matters. I do have a passing interest in the subject or I'd not have set this site up for you guys to share your information with us and others. But I'm not by any means a serious student of such matters. My health and finances don't really allow me to travel and get out to do the field research as you guys can so I'm kinda stuck reading about it here or watching shows about it.

I do agree most of what I see on TV is more about showmanship than science. That gal on the expedition had absolutely no business being there. I commented on that several times during the show.

[ole bub]

Bill...

Making this forum available to John and many of the fine folks who post here, helps more than you realize.

It's not my place to post other members work...perhaps they will be more forthcoming in the future, either way they have some fascinating images, videos, audio recordings and "artifacts".  My work with John was removed from another website, for some unknown reason, when we announced our willingness to be interviewed?

The information is out there, Melissa is one of several folks who blog, interview and investigate "critters", she is a member of the TBRC and AIBR and was one of the gals in the recent Monsterquest episode "all female expedition to  Skookum Meadow".  I'd post a URL to her blog and internet radio show if I was not so damn cyber challenged with this new Firefox browser...LOL

My health is also the limiting factor in my pursuit of knowledge regarding the Big folks...I guess we should have took better care of ourselves...huh?

live and let live...

ole bub and the dawgs

[todtkaufman]

Bill,

I know who Melissa is, and here are the links to not only her Blog, but another Blog of a friend of hers, that talks about her research.

http://oklahomasquatch.blogspot.com/

and

http://txsasquatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/this-is-what-happens.html

[#59]

Bill,

I know who Melissa is, and here are the links to not only her Blog, but another Blog of a friend of hers, that talks about her research.

http://oklahomasquatch.blogspot.com/

and

http://txsasquatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/this-is-what-happens.html

Sometimes, you also hafta consider the source and agenda of some "friends" as well. 

[Bill]

The information is out there, Melissa is one of several folks who blog, interview and investigate "critters", she is a member of the TBRC and AIBR and was one of the gals in the recent Monsterquest episode "all female expedition to  Skookum Meadow

I saw that show but it's been a good while back as I recall. I didn't realize the Melissa you guys speak of was in that however. I didn't keep the episode and deleted it from my DVR after watching it so can't go back and figure out which one she was. It might come back on again and if so I'll try to remember to look for her in it.

I'd not want anyone to be posting stuff of otherw without their permission here. We don't need the hassles that come from that. I would however like for folks who have such and are willing to share them to post here. I have no problem with them keeping the where abouts of the images secret to keep others away.

If I could see either first hand or in really good quality photos or video something that really looks truthful and not faked or just so unclear as to be undetermineably what it is I might could move from skeptic to beliver status.

I doubt my health and finances will ever allow me to get out and do much looking for them first hand so I'll likely have to just depend on evidence supplied by others who can and do get out there.

I hear lots of concerns about many other sites and the way they are run. I really do not want this site to fall prey to those type things happening here. I am trying hard to keep this one on the right path. I don't want the personal attacks and name calling going on here and don't want members putting down folks coming in telling their stories and showing their images. We don't have to all agree with them and challenging in a proper scientific method is the correct and proper thing to do. We want to be sure we have the real McCoy not faked or fraudulent images and video as making a big deal over such to me only degrades a site as well. I really want this to be a professional site that can can hold its head high and be looked on with respect by all.