The Louisiana "Hunt"

[#59]

The following is my account of an experience that occurred ~3 years ago. A lot has happened/changed with my perspective since then but one thing has remained constant. That is, that night in Louisiana the BF* involved was a flesh and blood entity.

*BF; an entity yet to be conclusively identified via forensic sciencific methods.



The Louisiana

[#59]

As it appears there's a primate rehab facility just up the road from "Monster Central" (there's a whole covey of them scattered across Louisiana) and given the initial DNA analysis finding was purportedly "unknown primate" it does give reason to wonder if the animal shot that night may have been a resident (at one time or another) of some type facility.

If so, it would tend to basically render "Monster Central" as home to a primate on the lam rather than the abode of Sasquatch and make the entire GCBRO operation somewhat illegitimate as to it's mission statement.  :?:

[Bill]

Do you have anymore info regarding that last post John. Any clue just what they are doing at that site?  or sites?

[#59]

Do you have anymore info regarding that last post John. Any clue just what they are doing at that site?  or sites?

I've spoken with a couple of people who've participated in subsequent "hunts" and came away with the same opinion as mine in that while there's activity going on, there seems to be no real effort to make a confirmation of exactly what "it" is especially for species identification purposes.

This leads me to the inclination that perhaps continuing the "mystery" at "Monster Central" may well be better for business than a conclusion which may prove somewhat deflating.

[#59]

Upon condition of anonymity, a "source" has indicated to me that it appears the "animal" shot on this "hunt" was a former resident of the primate rehab facility just up the road from Monster Central.

If accurate, that does indeed explain a lot of things about that place.

[#59]

This facility is located ~10 miles NE of Monster Central:

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"Nonya,

Yes, I did see "it" before firing a shot.  "It" had a roundish head with a smallish ear located on the side clearly visible."

2+2=???

[phillyscott]

it states on the website you quote, that constriction did not begin until november of 2003, and habitation of the chimps was not until 2004, 2 years after the hunt.

[#59]

PS,

Good observation but what you probably do not know is shortly after the land was acquired (1999) there were primates being housed in the area in "temporary" facilities.  They were probably not the most secure either.  This info (as well as the original data) was furnished to me by a member of a "research organization" based in that general locale.

[phillyscott]

so, does this research person tell you that it is a certainty that a chimp escaped from this place, and ended up on that property on that night?

or, did they tell you any had escaped at all?

just curious

[#59]

He/she didn't say either way as that type of info would likely be kept tightly under wraps by the sanctuary people for obvious liability reasons.

However, as I stated previously in my opinion given the preponderance of evidence with the location of the sanctuary to MC, what I actually saw that evening and coupled with MH's description of "goofy" an alleged inhabitant of MC, a prudent person would not rule out the distinct possiblility of what was so stated in my aforementioned opinion.

[phillyscott]

got ya....was just asking

I just think if they had an "escapee" they would want it back, BAD, seeing all of the trouble and liability they could get in if a wild chimp running around hurt anyone....

wonder if they tatoo them, or mark them in anyway to show that they come from the sanctuary?
thanks

[#59]

I agree they would want it back but still would probably want to keep it on the QT because remember, for every chimp/BF running around loose in the woods there are probably 5-6 lawyers doing the same!  :wink:

[Ray Ford]

Do you mean that, in addition to a Bigfeet dog, a dog trained/inclined to stay close and let you know if one of the big hairy guys is sneaking up on you, I'm now going to have to have a Lawyer dog, one trained/inclined to stay close and let you know if a a Lawyer is slipping around?

I would not have thought that many Lawyers would hang out in the woods and fields: it would be too easy for someone (remember our veep's mishap in Texas) to "accidentally" shoot them.

Which reminds me of a story--about myself:  After I went into the ministry in the UMC and arrived at my first charge, I preached my first sermon in the little country church.  An older woman in the congregation commented after the sermon, "If I was shooting preachers, I'd let him go by!"  I got better.

I may even get better as a Bigfeet hunter.

Incidentally, I've known some Lawyers who were very good at law and were very good people:  As a young pastoral couple with very little money, my wife and I adopted two little boys.  The lawyer of one of our congregants handled the legal work, and, when he was through, gave us a bill for $90+ dollars to cover filing fees.

Incidentally again, if any of you are interested in a discussion of Indian artifacts, check out my site:  www.gbofreeforums.info/Raysplace.

[#59]

Statements continue to pop up about this event that are both innaccurate and often uttered by people that were not even there to begin with and therefore are second-hand hearsay in content.

To wit:

When the bigfoot was shot at Monster Central back in 2003, every bigfoot, including the one that was shot, ran off like a bunch of scared rabbits.

The GCBRO submitted blood evidence from the bigfoot that was shot in 2003. The DNA evidence came back "unknown primate". Without the body to confirm that it was a bigfoot, that is all the unknown DNA evidence will prove.

Those of us that were actually in the thicket heard the two (2) other beings coming in (from opposite directions) to the blowdown where the wounded one lay growling at us.  They were making no attempt at stealth as their movements were completely audible to us.  It certainly appeared they were coming to the aid and comfort of the wounded one.

The (alleged) DNA analysis coming back as "unknown primate" was (to the best of my knowledge and belief) not backed up by a second independent analysis rather, subsequently obscured in a cloud of secrecy and innuendo.  These actions coupled with the demand for return of our samples does make for the idea that just maybe the DNA results were possibly something quite a bit more alarming than "unknown primate" or perhaps simply a "known primate" either of which would bode ill for the event organizer.

Maintaining the status quo has proven to probably be the most profitable stance for said event organizer.

[#59]

Another thing....

Wasn't Jim (Monster Hunter) Lansdale on a BF/SF type show recently named (I think) "Legend Hunters" ?

Did he mention the "Louisiana Hunt" at all? 

Did he mention that one of his "crew" shot and wounded a (alleged) BF/SF? 

Did he mention it got away? 

Did he mention blood and other body fluid samples were recovered? 

Did he mention the (alleged) DNA analysis came back as "unknown primate" ?

If he didn't then why not ? as that was the perfect opportunity for him to pimp the place?

Did he not want to have to explain his FUBAR?

Could it be because the DNA analysis came back "known primate"

Could it be because the DNA analysis came back homo _______ ?

Inquiring minds want to know.