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« on: June 06, 2008, 11:35:00 AM »

It's a few posts down in the attached thread...

http://searchforbigfoot.org/index.php?showtopic=767

If you don't wish to login there here is an excerpt...

If you guessed your favorite internet troll and mine Craig Mitchell (Also known as Pywacket, or Pudwacker)...........

YOUR RIGHT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mr. Mitchell was captured in the above game cam photo's at Monster Central, on a game cam owned by TNwoods. This game cam was positioned on a tree about 20 feet from the infamous Tent - which is also roughly 100 yards from the campfire area where everyone was sitting and enjoying the evening.

Apparently the members who were there - were not amused, as they did not expect to be hearing call blasting - and some went to investigate the sounds... And found Pywacket with the boom box. Pywacket of course denied trying to hoax anyone, but why would you call blast so close to people and not give them warning you planned to do so? Why would you keep your location a secret from others?

TNwoods had not disclosed the location of that game cam, so when the flash went off - craig was understandably surprised. TNwoods couldnt get the film developed fast enough. Although craig begged TNwoods to not hand out those photos, he was kind enough to send them to me.

Since there is much speculation going on about me - do I feel compelled to post anything other than these photos? Nope. I think they speak for themselves.

So, I wonder who will now deny, although TNwoods already posted he was worried he would be involved in a story about hoaxing - yeah, he knew exactly what I had, and he knew if Craig continued - I would do just this. First of all - HOAXING is not funny and not something I will condone from anyone who calls themselves a "serious researcher". No one should put up with such a thing.

Even with my computer problems - I was still stuck on how to finish part 3 of my GCBRO article - as I had this information, and had been discussing it with a friend for sometime. I wasnt sure how to deal with what I knew. I do not think the entire GCBRO should be taken to task for the problems created by one person. I also have no doubt that Craig Mitchell is the one who started all the initial talk about my relationship with TNwoods, as he was the ONLY GCBRO member who said anything negative to me upon my return after the BBQ - infact one other GCBRO member who camped next to TNwoods and myself was frankly taken aback by the gossip about my relationship with TNwoods - he said he didnt hear anything. So, either Craig was sneaking around our tent that night (we did hear walking, and it was reported by many) or he was doing his level best to be nosey about what was happening.

So, you be the judge - why was Mr. Mitchell caught on film? Does Craig have any business telling anyone how to behave? Decide for yourself.

Dont talk to me about "Ethics" and then defend the likes of Craig Mitchell.
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2008, 05:25:29 AM »

Thom Powell also devotes an entire chapter on the Bigfoot/UFO connection, Chapter 10 "No Stone Left Unturned", suggesting the possibility of bigfoot being aliens/extraterrestrials.

I wouldn't use his book or anything he says as a guide in trying to learn more about anything Bigfoot.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2008, 10:32:46 PM »

His caveat should have been not even including it in the book in the first place. 

I know that you have read all that has been mentioned about the so-called "hoaxing" incident at the GCBRO BBQ, so I know for a fact that (1) there wasn't any hoaxing going on and (2) you know that there wasn't any hoaxing going on. 

Why do you feel the need to bring up an incident of someone outright lying about me when you are trying to conduct a legitimate bigfoot discussion forum?  Do you want to discuss bigfoot or not?

Discussing SF/BF happens to include hoaxing and you were caught red-handed by another GCBRO member's game cam while returning from your secret call blasting session near the campsite.  If it looks like a hoax, walks like a hoax and quacks like a hoax.....

I can't help if your buddy (w/camera) in a moment of having his upper lip curled back decided to give the developed pics to other parties and then your deed was out, exposed to the public.

It's a tad late for damage control.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2008, 09:12:56 AM »

Discussing bigfoot is discussing bigfoot.  Discussing hoaxers is only educational if you have proof that someone is a hoaxer.  Since there is no proof of my hoaxing, because there wasn't any hoaxing, bringing up the lies just makes you part of the liars.

No need for damage control for anyone on this board, especially you.  It was what it was, and it wasn't what you say it was. 

Don't mind me.  Please go back to your regular bullshit.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hoaxing
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2008, 07:25:03 PM »

Let you internet get down for a few days and stuff happens to your threads.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2008, 09:02:25 AM »


http://www.bigfootstudy.com/forums/index.php/topic,224.0.html
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2008, 06:11:52 PM »

Well John, if you are going to cut and paste from another forum, in all fairness, you should cut and paste the real story, not just a bunch of vicious lies from a very bitter individual.

This was posted on the Bigfoot Discussions board, members section.  It is an excerpt from a email that I sent to a fellow AIBR member.

Ok, since I sent this to a fellow AIBR member, I thought I would post it here so that my friends here will have the full story and not just the bits and pieces.
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"I do not have access to the Search For Bigfoot Forum, but friends of mine do, and they have been keeping me informed of the statements that are being made about me and this incident. Your responses about me and the situation concern me as a fellow AIBR member. The true facts have been distorted and you are making comments on someone you don't know and information that is coming in second and third hand from someone that has an agenda. She is not concerned with the truth of the matter, only how much mileage the lies will get her.

So, for you, as a fellow AIBR member I would like to set the record straight.

First, this situation has caused a great problem between Scott (Tnwoods) and myself, simply because he has made statements about me to Melissa, while they were "romantically involved", that simply are not true. Scott has had and still does have some problems that he must address. One problem has been his drinking and the effects that has caused in things he has said and written. I am sure that his drinking problem is one of the reasons that he got involved with Melissa. Because of his drinking behavior, I doubt that Scott can remember what he said and did last week, much less what he said and did back in OCT at the BBQ.

Fact 1. There were no "potential" members to the GCBRO at the GCBRO BBQ. The only non-member was Meslissa, and she was a guest and arrived around noon on Saturday. The BBQ it's self is on Saturday. The only people that were there Friday night (when the infamous incident took place) were full fledge members of the GCBRO. Although a couple of them were new members of the GCBRO, they were not "new" to bigfooting.

Fact 2. The only "children" that were there Friday night was Bobby Hamilton's young son. Believe me, there is nothing that kid doesn't know about bigfoot, having a father like Bobby. There were more children there on Saturday and Saturday night, and I would have thought that Melissa would have been more concerned about what they were hearing coming from Scott's tent, than anything I was call blasting. And yes, many members could hear it and many members were very bothered by it. I should mention that they were just as bothered by Scott's behavior as they were Melissa's. And nobody in the GCBRO, including myself, outed her, because we would have rather nobody in the "community" know about it. We do care what others think of the GCBRO.

Fact 3. The purpose of me going into the woods to "call blast" was to give members an opportunity to hear what call blasting sounds like from a distance, like a bigfoot would. I played several different "popular" call blast sounds, including the "Tahoe Scream" which Kathy Strain let me have a copy of. The reason I got a copy from her is because I arrived at Monster Central on Wednesday afternoon, and I wanted to "try" it to see what, if any, reaction I might get from the local monsters, before the crowd got there on Friday evening. (I got nothin', lol) Actually, that was where the "idea" came for me to let others hear what the call blasting sounds like.

Fact 4. Not everyone knew I was going to do this. It was only discussed between a few of us. Scott's attitude about it might have come from the fact that he wasn't one of the one's that knew upfront. I am sure that if he did, he would have let me know that I was going to head into the woods in the spot where his game camera was hung.
Several members saw me leave and head into the woods with my boom box. Everyone agreed how "electronic" the calls sounded and people were pretty much in agreement that call blasting wouldn't do much good. And nobody thought is was supposed to be some kind of a hoax. You will be tossed out of the GCBRO if caught hoaxing.

Fact 5. Scott's game camera got a couple of photos of me. When I got back into camp a little later, I told him that his camera would have a couple of funny photos on it. We both had a good laugh about it. When he emailed me the photos, he was fully in sconced in his "romantic" relationship with Melissa. I cautioned him on how he "presented" these photos because I told him that I didn't trust Melissa, no matter how "he" felt about her. Just because he wanted a relationship with her at that time, didn't mean that his friends were willing to accept her at face value. I know this bothered him and he said things to Melissa that were untrue. "Hot Monkey Love" will make guys say and do things quite contrary to their usual nature, and I choose to believe Scott was saying these things to better get into her pants, than that he actually believe those things about me. Never the less, it has cause a tremendous amount of damage to our friendship.

Fact 6. Melissa hasn't finished her GCBRO BBQ story on her blog, not because of the call blasting incident (like she is trying to get others to believe, but because of the bad feelings she has for Scott, after he broke up with her. I know this as fact because of the people that have told me this based upon the emails that she has sent them concerning the matter. JayLeeD will be more than happy to confirm this. Besides, she really doesn't have anything to write about because she didn't do anything except sit in camp the whole time, holding hands with Scott. She spent no time, and I mean no time, talking or interviewing any one that was there, including Jim Lansdale and Bobby Hamilton.

So, there you have it. The truth of the matter. You can choose to believe whatever you like, however in all of this mess, you must consider that "the law of averages" itself would show that Melissa is not telling the truth. There can't be that many people in the community that are in some kind of major conspiracy to "have her ostracized from the bigfoot community" like she is claiming. I have yet to find any truth in any of her stories concerning the BBQ that she has posted on the forums or in her blog.


The crux of the matter is that no one that was there that Friday night felt that they were being hoaxed.  We sat around and talked about the call blasting and how it sounded, afterwards.  No one (that was there} has come forward and said that I was hoaxing, yet others (that were there) have come forward to clarify my actions in the incident.

Craig Mitchell
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« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2008, 11:08:02 PM »


The sad fact remains...you perpetrated a fraudulent action upon unsuspecting GCBRO people and no amount of "back-filling" is going to change that fact.

Once a hoaxer...always a hoaxer?
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2008, 11:17:19 PM »

You are quite the backhoe operator, eh?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 06:20:17 AM »

No, the real fact is that I didn't.  And no amount of blustering from people like you will prove different.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 06:40:05 AM »

No, but I think those guys that use heavy equipment have a lot of fun with their jobs.

John, this whole mess was caused by a bitter and vindictive individual that has been caught in so many lies.   I know that you have read my blog response to her in this matter.  If not, let me know and I will PM it to you.

You and I have our sparing matches every once in a while, (and they are fun), but I would make sure I have all the facts and all the truth before I would call you a hoaxer.

This was what I posted in a thread on another forum, concerning the steps to outing a hoaxer:

I think the first element in outing a hoaxer would be absolute investigation into the so-called hoaxing incident. I believe you better have your verifiable proof before you start accusing someone of hoaxing. Hoaxing is a very bad thing in our community. Calling someone a hoaxer needs to be a legitimate claim with legitimate evidence and not a unwarranted accusation from some bitter individual or someone out trying to make a name for themselves.

In other words, an honest investigation without bias and malice. That is the first step.


So, if you have proof that I am a hoaxer, please present it. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2008, 05:33:02 PM »

No, but I think those guys that use heavy equipment have a lot of fun with their jobs.

John, this whole mess was caused by a bitter and vindictive individual that has been caught in so many lies.   I know that you have read my blog response to her in this matter.  If not, let me know and I will PM it to you.

You and I have our sparing matches every once in a while, (and they are fun), but I would make sure I have all the facts and all the truth before I would call you a hoaxer.

This was what I posted in a thread on another forum, concerning the steps to outing a hoaxer:

I think the first element in outing a hoaxer would be absolute investigation into the so-called hoaxing incident. I believe you better have your verifiable proof before you start accusing someone of hoaxing. Hoaxing is a very bad thing in our community. Calling someone a hoaxer needs to be a legitimate claim with legitimate evidence and not a unwarranted accusation from some bitter individual or someone out trying to make a name for themselves.

In other words, an honest investigation without bias and malice. That is the first step.


So, if you have proof that I am a hoaxer, please present it. 

First, explain the photo (of you) caught returning from the thicket (boom box in hand) on Scott's gamecam.
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2008, 07:49:36 PM »

Ok, one more time.  The area of woods that I went into was only about 100 yards from the main camping area. Scott was not in the group of us that discussed me going into the woods to play call blasting sounds, so he was unaware of the area that I went into.  The area was in a straight line behind his tent, where he had placed his game camera, facing away from the camp.  I walked past it and two photos were taken.  I was aware that the camera had gotten photos of me, (because of the obvious flash) and I informed Scott.  We had a good laugh over it.  Everybody else there was aware that Scott's camera had taken a couple of photos of me.

The only reason not everyone was told I would be going into the woods to play sounds was because not everyone was right there in the group were this was discussed.  Nobody was singled out to "not know", especially Scott.  However, everyone was knowledgeable about it after I came back in.  We all spent time discussing what the calls sounded like.

It was a helpful exercise to those that contemplate call blasting, because it allowed them to hear what the calls sound like from a distance.  Kind of like what a bigfoot would be hearing.
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2008, 05:21:47 AM »

Well, since I am the only one that has posted the "true facts" in this matter, it should be a no-brainer.  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2008, 09:57:03 AM »

I reckon it all depends upon whose "facts" are considered reliable.

BTW, these posts were split from the "6 things..." thread in order to maintain continuity of that thread.
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