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« on: August 31, 2008, 11:44:16 AM »

Does anyone have any relevant news on the covey of Live Feeds that were implemented within the past few months?

Seems like they have either been abandoned or taken underground?

Reckon they just don't work out as anticipated?

I'm aware of a possible hoaxing incident on one of them and that may have been a factor in it's apparent demise.
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 01:08:20 PM »

Looks like these so-called live feeds are now dead ?
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 03:44:04 PM »

So does that make them now DEAD FEEDS?
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2008, 10:59:57 PM »

Hmmmm.....

I'm editing this one out. Below is the basis for the edit but John I've said it before and am saying it again this site is NOT a gossip site. Post about bigfoot not about other supposed bigfoot hunters. Bill

E-mail from Darren Lee to me:


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Bill,

John Phillips has made purely false and fabricated statements about the amount of money that was brought in off of donations for the live feed in Oklahoma in his observations thread.  He has fabricated statements to the effect that $8000 was brought in.

 

I’ve kept out of the fight between him and Doug Bilby, but now he is making up false statements against my entire organization.  Will you please delete those statements?

 

I’m really tired of all the veiled attacks that John does towards the MABRC, when he has never met anyone associated with it except for Doug, and we both know how that has turned out.  I gave my word to you quite a few months ago, that I would not allow my forum to be used as a base for attacks against John, and you in turn would ride herd on John.  The same was true with Ray Ford, I made a gentlemen’s agreement with him, that I would not allow attacks on John from my forum in return, he would ride herd on John too.  The only reasons John hates the MABRC so much, is that we refused to allow him in on our research, and we called him on the fact he needs to post his current research instead of reliving the same old stories over and over again, and his hatred for us continues to this day.

 

I’ve kept my word, and you can search my forum ( www.mid-americabigfoot.com/phpbb3/ )and see that there is no attacks against John for well over 9 months now.  Will you and Ray keep yours and ride herd on John?

 

Seriously Bill, aren’t you tired of the same old things that John is doing, every thread seems to be turned around and directed at the MABRC, Doug Bilby, Randy Harrington or myself.  I have never met John, so I don’t even know why he thinks he knows what kind of person I am.  You’ve even told him to back off on several occasions, then he doesn’t post for several days or a week, just like he is trying to punish you for saying anything to him.  I know I am tired of it, especially when he makes things sound different by pruning comments to make them seem to mean something different than what they were meant to originally intend to mean.

 

As for the live feed project at Doug’s, we have committed to a one year long study of the area, via these cameras, in hopes to either prove activity there, or disprove it.  It certainly is a step in the right direction to get evidence as the cameras are running 24/7 in 8 remote locations away from the house.   No one is making money off it like he has tried to claim by his fabricated comments, when in reality, I’ve personally spent about $2000 of my own money on this project to see it go live.

 

You made the following comment to me in a previous e-mail

 

It is not my intention to have the Bigfoot Study site involved in pissing contests or wars with other sites. I’m only interested in having it be a site where anyone who wishes can come and discuss their views of Bigfoot and give any research or study they’ve done in that area.

 

And so far, it’s only been a place where John can attack everyone, even people he has never met in person.  He has not posted any new research or evidence, only reliving the same old events that happened to him years ago.

 

Anyway, I’m just asking you to do the right thing and stand by your word that you would ride herd on John, as I have kept my word.

 

DW Lee

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I then asked if he was saying the comment posted initially here had in fact never been posted at his site and that it was a complete fabrication. His reponse to me is:

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The first copy was a total fabrication in the part where he added the monetary figure.  The second part was all that was ever posted.

Now I'm NOT gonna get involved in a pissing contest between any two or more folks here on who is truthful and who is not in such matters. I've stated it before and will do so again here.


It is not my intention to have the Bigfoot Study site involved in pissing contests or wars with other sites. I’m only interested in having it be a site where anyone who wishes can come and discuss their views of Bigfoot and give any research or study they’ve done in that area.


I hope this is now abundantly clear. If you don't have anything to post but BS from other sites and attacks on anyone regardless of who then don't post. This is not bigfoot gossip central. Bill.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2008, 09:36:39 PM »

Hmmmm.....

I'm editing this one out. Below is the basis for the edit but John I've said it before and am saying it again this site is NOT a gossip site. Post about bigfoot not about other supposed bigfoot hunters. Bill

E-mail from Darren Lee to me:


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John Phillips has made purely false and fabricated statements about the amount of money that was brought in off of donations for the live feed in Oklahoma in his observations thread.  He has fabricated statements to the effect that $8000 was brought in.

The previously posted excerpts came directly from Mr. Harrington's MySpace blog and were quoted verbatim and are so stored (even though it has been deleted by the author in the past few hours) in the MySpace hard drive archive.

Therefore, how is censoring the publication quoted and the follow-up with valid questions any different from the discussion and/or vivisection of the Georgia Boys BF incident?

Apparently, they (GA boys/BFtracker.com) are fair game but if one of the guys from another site gets caught covertly bragging about making a buck off their brand of "research" why are they sacrosanct and other folks aren't?

It wasn't posted on his site so maybe it wasn't intended for the eyes of the faithful?

Is the truth concerning BF discussion now to be suppressed in favor of expediency?

WHY was Mr. Harrington's entire MySpace account deleted today?

WHO is afraid of truthful discussion especially about a BF Live Feed?

Yes, I am controversial to those that apparently disdain the truth being discussed but is that any catalyst for shooting the messenger?


I’ve kept out of the fight between him and Doug Bilby, but now he is making up false statements against my entire organization.  Will you please delete those statements?

 

I’m really tired of all the veiled attacks that John does towards the MABRC, when he has never met anyone associated with it except for Doug, and we both know how that has turned out.  I gave my word to you quite a few months ago, that I would not allow my forum to be used as a base for attacks against John, and you in turn would ride herd on John.  The same was true with Ray Ford, I made a gentlemen’s agreement with him, that I would not allow attacks on John from my forum in return, he would ride herd on John too.  The only reasons John hates the MABRC so much, is that we refused to allow him in on our research, and we called him on the fact he needs to post his current research instead of reliving the same old stories over and over again, and his hatred for us continues to this day.

 

I’ve kept my word, and you can search my forum ( www.mid-americabigfoot.com/phpbb3/ )and see that there is no attacks against John for well over 9 months now.  Will you and Ray keep yours and ride herd on John?

No, it's likely because of the conversation you had with the BAPD over your involvement in the 12/07 incident.

 

Seriously Bill, aren’t you tired of the same old things that John is doing, every thread seems to be turned around and directed at the MABRC, Doug Bilby, Randy Harrington or myself.  I have never met John, so I don’t even know why he thinks he knows what kind of person I am.  You’ve even told him to back off on several occasions, then he doesn’t post for several days or a week, just like he is trying to punish you for saying anything to him.  I know I am tired of it, especially when he makes things sound different by pruning comments to make them seem to mean something different than what they were meant to originally intend to mean.

 

As for the live feed project at Doug’s, we have committed to a one year long study of the area, via these cameras, in hopes to either prove activity there, or disprove it.  It certainly is a step in the right direction to get evidence as the cameras are running 24/7 in 8 remote locations away from the house.   No one is making money off it like he has tried to claim by his fabricated comments, when in reality, I’ve personally spent about $2000 of my own money on this project to see it go live.

 

You made the following comment to me in a previous e-mail

 

It is not my intention to have the Bigfoot Study site involved in pissing contests or wars with other sites. I’m only interested in having it be a site where anyone who wishes can come and discuss their views of Bigfoot and give any research or study they’ve done in that area.

 

And so far, it’s only been a place where John can attack everyone, even people he has never met in person.  He has not posted any new research or evidence, only reliving the same old events that happened to him years ago.

 

Anyway, I’m just asking you to do the right thing and stand by your word that you would ride herd on John, as I have kept my word.

 

DW Lee

Director
Mid-America Bigfoot Research Center

I then asked if he was saying the comment posted initially here had in fact never been posted at his site and that it was a complete fabrication. His reponse to me is:

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The first copy was a total fabrication in the part where he added the monetary figure.  The second part was all that was ever posted.

Now I'm NOT gonna get involved in a pissing contest between any two or more folks here on who is truthful and who is not in such matters. I've stated it before and will do so again here.


It is not my intention to have the Bigfoot Study site involved in pissing contests or wars with other sites. I’m only interested in having it be a site where anyone who wishes can come and discuss their views of Bigfoot and give any research or study they’ve done in that area.


I hope this is now abundantly clear. If you don't have anything to post but BS from other sites and attacks on anyone regardless of who then don't post. This is not bigfoot gossip central. Bill.

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« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2008, 10:34:07 PM »

I'm locking this one now and expect even those with moderator status that would allow posting to a locked thread to honor my locking of it.

This site is NOT going to be used for a vendetta against anyone. The personal fueds between individuals must be handled in some other manner than using this site to further them. I explained this more fully in my PM.
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