A Set of Pictures

[darkwinglh]

Darren,

What I'm about to say is in all candor so please don't take it as a basis to start a fuss and get the thread locked as I won't go that far with you.  However, the following is (IMHO) germane to the OP as it deals with acusations of hoaxing in a somewhat similar scenario.

First, I was told that the "sentinel" picture was a hoax by two individuals.  One was a former MABRC member and the other is a current member.  In addition, other past and present MABRC members have conveyed to me that you have bragged about being todtkaufman.  I don't know (at the present time) if that's 100% accurate but the fact you "two" share several identical ISP addresses makes it somewhat compelling.

I know your position on that and that's your perogative as the facts are in process of coming out in the very near future and then regardless of what anyone has said/is saying the truth will be a matter of public record.

That's all I'm going to say for now and we'll just have to see what the actual truth is as things begin to unfold.

I wish you good fortune and sincerely hope you are not involved in what's about to transpire in any fashion.

Regards,
John

To be honest with you John, it really doesn't matter.  For you to prove anything, certain facts on your end would also be brought forth that I know for a fact, you don't really want out in public yourself.  You've also left a trail ten miles wide across the internet that even a blind man can follow, that shows your culpability in the whole affair yourself. 

Not trying to start bickering here, but I doubt there will ever be any litigation on this matter, as there are more than enough witnesses and paper trail to show your past activities involved in this whole affair.

Your best bet would be to let it drop, because it will cause yourself more grief than you think.  JMHO.

As for the picture John, Bullet is your worst enemy here, even though you have buried the hatchet with him, his comments on this picture have already claimed it's a bigfoot, just like the three bigfoots picture that you and him have argued over for years.  Regardless of the damage control you have tried to do, he's already made that claim, and since your name is on the picture, along with his, what he says reflects back on you.

No amount of professional examination is going to overcome the fact, that both of you have left a trail of devastation across the Internet and across numerous individuals' lives, that people could really give a rat's a** about what you two ever come up with.

I'm not going to post anymore on this subject, because I've really tried to show you that this picture is not worth the effort you are going through to prove its something.  Especially when everyone knows Bullet made the claim that he was a hoaxer on his property.  That kills any evidence that can ever be brought out of his property as being legit.  I have 13,000 hours of video footage from the DVR/Camera setup there, that is now completely worthless because Bullet made the claim of hoaxing.  (Even though you and I both know he said that in anger, he still said it) Even if a Bigfoot came out in the open in the footage, no one would believe it because it came from Bullet's.  The same with this picture, it came from Bullet's, no one will ever buy into that it's possibly a bigfoot.  And Bullet has stated too many times that he's had trespassing hunters all the time.

Bullet is a white whale to your Captain Ahab, John.  I wish you luck.

[Yosemite Sam]

It just so happens that I know first hand from the author of the book thst John is the grand son of Telahnay.  So You might want to check your sources.

Red Rider

And I should take your word for it?  

Darkwing
I did not attack you personally, and think a personal attack directed toward me is uncalled for. I  merely suggested that you might want to be more diligent in checking out your sources before repeating hear say.  

[#59]

Darren,

While I appreciate the legal advice and recognize we've all said/done things that in retrospect have regretted, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any evidence of defamation, per se on my part.

It is what it is and things are going to transpire as they're going to be.

Regards,
John

[#59]

BTW, me thinks having a "white whale" to deal with is much preferable to the stuff that whale leaves on the ocean floor. 

[#59]

The upshot of all this is really that one photo is just that.  One piece of possible evidence and rarely does one piece of evidence constitute "proof" of anything.

So, it will take a body of evidence accumulated and evaluated by people by reason of knowledge, education & training (read; educated professionals) with an established track record of implementing a rigor and process that meets generally accepted standards to successfully establish the existence (or not) of these so-called UHS entities.

Citizen science does have it's place in this endeavour but such practitioners need be aware they are under the microscope as much if not more than the pro's. 

[#59]

To-date we've had seven different labs doing a variety of analysis on the negatives and/or making slides, CD's, prints, etc..  Currently, a drum roll scan is in progress which hopefully will yield even better clarity.  Multiple disinterested (professional) third parties are conducting this work and we expect a detailed report(s) to be forthcoming within a few weeks. 

All I know is I've learned more about photographic science than I ever wanted to in the last few weeks.

[#59]

When Doug and I put this photo out for public scrutiny we were prepared for the peanut gallery parade of experts to unload their venom and bile especially once they learned who was involved.

It sure brought out the "best" that lot had to offer and also exposed many of them as the rank amateurs they truly are and thus rendering their reputations as moot and irrelevant.

Case in point...how many of the so-called experts on websites such as BFF, MABRC, et. al. noticed a very significant item in the picture?

Not one.

It came up in the current analysis being done and may have the potential to yield even more insight into the event.

Yet, not a one of these dudes caught it despite proclaiming themselves as critic extraordinaire.

What could it be?

[#59]

So far, the silence has been deafening....

This "discovery" in the photo only goes to show how severe these so-called experts cannot see the forest for all of those trees.

IMHO, it certainly illustrates how inherent bias can literally blind the person to the obvious.

[#59]

It has been rather interesting as well as illuminating to work with true professional individuals on this endeavour. 

To that end, we are in process of capturing reference photos of the location to further establish more concrete measurements of the UHS as well as reference shots of a human subject (in the same spot) to illustrate what such a photo image would look like in comparison to the original UHS image.

As we're in full summer foliage these shots will have some variance so we also plan on taking additional images this fall when conditions are replicated to the original photos.

I expect this endeavour to gradually evolve into a body of work that will withstand scrutiny of critical review from Dr. Ciani's peers.  These individuals are after all the only ones that really matter for purposes of this project.

[Bill]

This "discovery" in the photo only goes to show how severe these so-called experts cannot see the forest for all of those trees.

OK so what or where in the photo is this "discovery" located?

[#59]

This "discovery" in the photo only goes to show how severe these so-called experts cannot see the forest for all of those trees.

OK so what or where in the photo is this "discovery" located?

Bill,

It's the second gamecam affixed to a tree adjacent (right side) to the UHS.

[#59]

This "discovery" in the photo only goes to show how severe these so-called experts cannot see the forest for all of those trees.

OK so what or where in the photo is this "discovery" located?

And where is the photo?? POWDERMAN. 

http://www.stancourtney.com/wordpress/


Scroll down a bit on the main page.

[Yosemite Sam]

I have been over on that site, and I must say the picture is one of the best proof of bigfoot that I have ever seen.

[Bill]

Bill,

It's the second gamecam affixed to a tree adjacent (right side) to the UHS.

I won't say there is no second game camera but I will say I do not see anything remotely resembling one. I do see a patch of leaves but no game cam and no means of securing one. I will accept on site inspection by you as evidence if such is there but I don't think they photo backs that up.

I have been over on that site, and I must say the picture is one of the best proof of bigfoot that I have ever seen.

That wouldn't be because it's your camera on your land would it Doug? Ya made the same claims about another photo once upon a time.

[#59]

Bill,

It's the second gamecam affixed to a tree adjacent (right side) to the UHS.

I won't say there is no second game camera but I will say I do not see anything remotely resembling one. I do see a patch of leaves but no game cam and no means of securing one. I will accept on site inspection by you as evidence if such is there but I don't think they photo backs that up.

Bill,

It is affixed to a tree located ~1.5" (using the large scale image from Stan's blog site) to the right of the UHS.  In the foreground (right side) there is a tree with it's bark illuminated by the flash that has two short limbs angling upward at ~45 degrees to ten o'clock.  The lower one (longer of the two) ends just above the camera which is affixed to another tree behind it.  The square box (remember, there are no right angles in nature) is there bigger than Dallas.