Why Bigfoot has not been "Discovered"

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A perusal of many of the so-called BF websites illustrates that many of these BF "researchers" are so gullible (kool-aid drinkers) that they could not "find" a BF even if a herd of 1,000 ran smack over them.

Case in point, our friend Bullet Maker is parading a photo titled "BF Crossing a Creek" on one such website.  IMO, this is an outright deception on his part.

The picture was taken on one of my gamecams (summer, 2002) on COE land in Spencer creek.  We (BM, DG, WW, Brian, Todd & me) had all agreed (after careful evaluation including reference of the photo scene post-pic day) it was NOT a BF but a combination of rootwad, sticks and other debris that gave the "appearance" of a BF.  Further, the "ghostly image" BM has postulated as that of the (image of) rapid exit of a BF is nothing more than humidity/mist from the water in the creek.  I have the original photo/negatives and long ago thought this was a moot point by all concerned especially after I had a professional (30+ yrs.) photographer examine them.

Give me a break!

With the epidemic of wannabe true believers, outright morons and charlatan/hustlers that feed upon them it is NO WONDER that BF remains a mystery to this day.

Government cover-up?   HA! HA! With this army of clowns doing the job they're facilitating no wonder the mainstream public thinks they're looney!  Sad fact is, many apparently are.

Now, before anyone gets on the "Let's defend poor 'ol BM bandwagon" I have been told by people (that have been "researching" on his property in the past six months) that he is selling "BF hunts" wherein promising a "shot" at a BF from one of his tower stands located there and using threads (such as the above described one) on various websites to promote them.  

One of these "hunts" has allegedly been held with sporadic gunfire reported by the BF researchers (located on another part of the property) throughout the night.  No self-respecting BF is gonna hang around a place where WWIII is going on.  :lol:

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's really happening with the "seeding" of various websites with these type threads and bolstering them with the claim there is ongoing BF activity by having BF researchers continually working the property.  Do you reckon they really know they're being played like a cheap fiddle or worked like rented mules?  :roll:

[Micahn]

I agree with you for the most part. Not much makes me madder when i see a obvious fake picture posted some place and so many say well it could be real. 99% of the pictures/film you see online is clearly faked or nothing at all. By saying it is anything else is only hurting the Bigfoot community in the eyes of the rest of the people out there that does not believe in it.
Every TV show where they show fakes/blobs just gives them people more to point to and say look what they fools believe in. Every web site that post them pictures just gives them more ammo to use against any real studies being done.
I understand why they do it as real pictures or films are so rare. But to only be foolish and say that a picture or film that anyone that is not blind can see that it is not real could be real only hurts the very few real ones.

Do not even get me started on paid hunts/camping trips that some sites are running now days. Just go check out the bfro site and your see that 99% of their camping trips have some type of sighting be it seeing something or sounds. Yet they can not show any sort of proof at all that the animal is real. I find it really funny that they do not want any sort of fire arms on their trips. Could it be because they do not want their buddies out in the dark getting shot when they are faking things ?
If they held a few of them trips and nothing happened at all guess what would happen, No one would want to pay to go on them.

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While BM is now maintaining his is not selling BF hunts on his place the following is what a member of another website forwarded to me today:

Nice to hear from you, you never did say where your from  I have to know where your from, to see what accomodations, I would have to provide. Such as motel, tent, RV. etc. So its very important, to let me know where your at.

Sometimes the hunts or one night, and sometimes there a week long.

Thanks for you interest, but I need more information, and I`m sure you understand, that I cant just give out a quote, with out knowing something about my clients.

Thanks

bullet maker

Meanwhile, this is what he posted yesterday on the same website:

Thank you Driveroperator for the kind remarks.

And yes Ladies and Gentlemen, there has been a nasty rumor spread around about me usine D.O. and darkwinglh, as they said in the nasty report, (use them like sweaty mules), to drum up the bigfoot sightings, and then sale bigfoot hunts, makeing all the money for myself  what a crock of caca. LOL, its makes me laugh out loud sometimes of how some people can be so jealous, and spitful. But you know they have to answer to the Lord for false acusations.
Like D.O. said I never charge for a bigfoot hunt, I dont have bigfoot hunts, its only for my investigator friends. I dont charge my friends, or anyone else. Now how this rumor got started is beyond me. I do sale deer and turkey leases. And as D.O. said sometimes these paid deer/turkey hunters, do witness something that they have never seen before. Then they ask me if they can come out after season and help us all investigate, I give some of them permission.
So thats probably how the rumor got started.

(OK, NOW, ALL YOU GUYS GOT TO GIVE ME THE MONEY THAT YOUR SUPPOSE TO OWE ME. HAHAHAHAH.)  

bullet maker


More apparent evidence his word is totally worthless.  :roll:

[#59]

Reckon I was mistaken???

You be the judge.


From: bullet maker
To: Telahnay's g'son
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:29 am
Subject: rumors  
You ass-hole, I saw what you posted on greybeards, talk about dirty pool. boy, I knew it was you as abh or whatever the name was. I was just jokeing with you butt-head. Shows how close you pay attention to any detail that pertains to me. LOL. Now be a good lad, and go back over there and appologize and make ammends for the error. or I`ll tale your wife about your new love in MO. HAHAHAHA, JUST JOKEING.

bullet maker

[Micahn]

LOL nice email

[#59]

Yep,

Posted it so everyone could get a better idea of exactly what "gem" this dude really is made from.  :roll:

It's also not the first time he has made those type of threats either including vandalizing/sabotaging vehicles, illegal towing of vehicles off COE land (per the Rogers county SO) and threatening to shoot at us while on adjacent PHA/COE or his neighbors land.

We concluded (last year) that he was trying to create a "BF" hunting lease situation and from what darkwingdl (Darren) told others about what went on there when they were doing their research back in February along with the above posted info it makes a pretty compelling case.

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This is part of a recent exchange over on the main forums and more compelling evidence of why BF is "safe" from being discovered:

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More of the sickness that pervades this field:

Well, it's time for an editorial.

It seems that Telahnay's g'son, who had been banned from every Bigfoot Forum on the Internet and who has stabbed every researcher he comes into contact with in the back, has been lurking on our forums here.

How do we know he's lurking, well because several posts from this forum has not-surprisingly showed up on Graybeard's forum, the only forum he is allowed to be on. In particular, the post announcing the Honobia Bigfoot Festival.

His post on Graybeard's then proceeds to blast everyone of the speakers for the event. And what is so funny about it, he doesn't even know any of these folks. Maybe it's because he's jealous that he can't play with anyone anymore.

This is his latest in attacks against me that started when Ole Bub was removed from the MABRC, and it seems that Ole Bub let him in on all the research that was going on in the MABRC at the time.

The folks at the Kiamichi Giants forum hate him, the members of the GCBRO hate him, most of the researchers in Oklahoma spit on the ground when they hear his name.

No one wants to have anything to do with him, and he thinks it's everyone else's fault. Come on Telahnay's g'son, get a life. The damage has been done, there is no researcher going to allow you into their research areas knowing how you have attacked and distorted the facts about everything that has happened or the fact that you attack other researchers when they refuse to have anything to do with you.

Why don't you tell the truth for a change? You are mad because Ole Bub couldn't convince me to let you into my research areas? You're mad because DO and myself go to BM's to do research and get results? You're mad because you're not man enough to admit you're wrong and get on with your life? You have nothing in the way of research, you relive the same stories over and over again, and never show anything new.

Maybe you don't realize that Oklahoma has a law against stalking people, which you seem to do a lot of. I'm surprised that BM hasn't already filed criminal charges against you for coming onto his property again and again, because it's obvious you are stalking him and his wife.

The only other thing I can think of that is your major malfunction is that maybe you are attracted to other men and can't handle rejection.  

For everyone else that reads this, be assured, my language here is nothing near what they are saying about Telahnay's g'son at the Kiamichi Giants forum. And that if he ever approaches you to do research with him, run as fast as you can and don't look back.




And one last thing Telahnay's g'son (edited)

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1. I/we know exactly where his "research areas" are located however, IF there was anything of merit going on we would have already been there.  Besides, we had already checked him (Lee) out with the locals and his reputation (as such) in the community led us to NOT want to have anything to do with him.

2. Probably explains why he spent so much time at BM's place.

3. I have not trespassed on BM's place but he cannot say the same for doing so on his neighbor's property.

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And this from our pal Randy Harrington (aka: fireman, aka; razor, aka; driveroperator, aka; ash)

Just go to the kiamichi forums if you need to get a quick look at what others have learned about him. too bad others had to spend time with him before learning how he is. Most of the people over there blasting him used to call him a good friend....go figure. At least i knew from the first time we met on a forum that he was a turd. so we got right at each other. I recognize a lowlife from the getgo. I have witnessed him attack at least 10 people at his forum with the blessings of the moderator over there.
His only friend is the forum moderator at graybeards. that is why he has free run to slam people over there. how else can you reason it?
graybeard gave him his own site to discuss bigfoot, but after three years of reliving the lousiana hunt and the "spencer creek hidden field" story over and over, the place is dead.
he tried to saddle up to me more than once just to get back to bullets place( the only place he has ever seen a bigfoot) he was successful saddling up to ole bub, because ole bub was his ticket back to bullets. ole bub kept trying to mediate some type of truce with us. he even tried to get in with DW ( because it would get him back to bullets) but i was not about to play with a snake. a snake that has bitten everyone.

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POT...MEET KETTLE.

Coming from someone that openly committed vehicular trespass on federal property AND hunts illegally (w/NV scopes) in Oklahoma I don't place a lot of credibility in anything this clown states.

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Another lurker heard from:

Somebody last night really let Tele.g.son have it with both barrels,  LOL, and then when all the fun was really starting, he (Tele.g.son)must have called his daddy, cause here comes, Greybeard, and deleted all the information,  what was funny, is that everything said was copy and pasted from other sites, about the very bad things, that this Tele.g.son has done on other site, so in essence it was all true, there was withnesses. So it seems that as long as this Tele.g.son stays, on Greybeards, he is protected.  I find it hipocrital, that Greybeard, lets tele.gson, copy and post from other sites, to down grade whoever he wants, but when it happenes, to John boy, welllll, that just cant happen on his site, so in essence, greybeard is a hipocrite.
Course his site, (Greybeards that is) has gone to the dogs, ever since he took up with his golden boy, (Tele.g.son), but who cares, anyhow, its, not that its even a bigfoot site, but he lets, a person, who tries, to protray their self as an expert  run amuck talking about and down grading good people in the bigfoot community.
We can only hope, that sooner or later, some bigfoot will step out of the woods, and snap tele.g.son, out of his truck (he`s afraid of the dark, by himself), and make a bitch out of him.  

bullet maker  



Someone get this dude a dictionary!

BTW, I wonder if his neighbor still has the Protective Order in force against him?  Anyone that really wants to find out the skinnies on BM's pedigree should first check with the Rogers county SO.  It will likely be most illuminating.

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Now, the webmaster (at the site these last three posts came from) has elected to "cover up" that particular forum from public scrutiny.  

Well, at least they can throw rock and sticks while singing cumbayah and doing their group hug bit.

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darkwinglh   Post subject: Low Traffic forum?Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:48 pm  
 
 
 

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Location: Skilleyville, Oklahoma  We've been labeled a low traffic forum by an unscrupulus character. I'm posting this pic to dispute that, this is how many hits our announcements section has acquired in one month's time, don't look like low-traffic to me, especially since we don't advertise that much yet. Folks are still finding us in droves.

Just wanted everyone to see this, show how good we are doing.

 
 
Low traffic (compared to other sites) and definitely LOW LIFE especially when you consider their "lead investigator" (a "tin man", aka: siding salesman) uses his teenage daughter as BF "bait" on their "hunts".   :roll:

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Folks,

Don't know how you'll feel about this but I found it rather disturbing.

It seems (to the best of my knowledge & belief) the lead investigator for one of the main speakers at the upcoming Honobia BF circus has been using tactics some people might raise an eyebrow over.

It basically involves using his teenage (~@15) daughter as "bait" during recent BF "hunts" as he (allegedly) placed her used feminine hygiene articles around the proximity of said hunt while she was on the location.

IMHO, that is major sicko (aberrant) behavior.  He must have watched "King Kong" one time too many?

It has often been said that "desperate people will do desperate things" and this may well qualify as such especially with someone so intent upon being the first to "bag" a BF.

Additionally, he has a documented pattern & history of behavior involving threats of physical assault upon those he feels are getting in his way of killing a BF including threatening a heart (pacemaker wearing) patient ~20 years his senior.

This correlates to my earlier comments in previous threads about the most dangerous animal in the woods being human.

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More from the hose boy:

driveroperator   Post subject: Re: John Phillips (Telahnay's g'son)Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:47 pm  
 
 
 

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:23 pm
Posts: 291  here is a new post from telahnay, he must be checking out our forum, and he must be taking issue with creekfreaks idea.

telahnay quote:
However, if you really want "entertainment" traipse over to either the
MABRC or NABF forums and find out how for a measly quarter mil you can
have a live trapped BF delivered to your door, etc....that's gotta be
far more entertainment than a six pack and bug zapper.


here is a personal message i recieved from him... he must need a good thrashing!

quote from telahnay:
Tell me, does BM make you squeal like a pig? After all, we've been hearing a lot of those type noises coming from the HBF and figured he was fudge packing the hose boy.

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However, he conveniently left out the "rest of the story"...






In the exchange, he issued physical harm threats toward me and slurs against my daughter.  But then again what would you expect from a guy who "thinks" he's a tough guy bully and uses his own minor child as BF "bait".